Tuesday, January 12, 2010

IF it were true...

A couple of months ago. A friend from SL told me that he had to leave cuz he had some RL problems. He was divorced and cuz of some personal problems after that, he got fired. He could not find a place of his own to rent. He lived on the streets for a while to save money.
He now lives with friends and family who helped him after finding out he was living in the streets. He was just ashamed to ask them for help. I have a big deal of respect for this man. He is fighting to get his life in order. And he is winning this battle.

Now...the following case is very different...

WARNING: Please grab a kleenex, cuz the next part you will read is very.... snifffff.....

This begging letter was send in some groups in SL and also to individuals:
**Fundraising call for Real Life Crisis**
This is a real life plea for help to all Members of both the Medieval Midnight Mania and the Gorean Midnight Mania to please if you can donate any spare Lindens you may have. Pierce Ackmann is about to be made homeless in REAL LIFE, he has 2 days to find money for rent otherwise he has nowhere to live and will be on the streets, he has a son of 6 who he is desperately trying to stay near as his ex wife is being treated for Breast Cancer and and he needs to have somewhere that he can take him too, as with all of us sometimes things have not gone well in this economy and he now faces eviction in 48 hours. This is a honest request, any money donated will go directly to him for his situation. We ask only that you give something if you can and that people leave all SL drama out of this. It is happening in his real life not in here.
We will be erecting a place to donate in Gaia Market but until then please donate should you wish to do so directly to Pierce AV.
If you wish to donate anonymously please do so by passing on to Zun Sahara she will pass on anything received by her directly to Pierce.
If you wish to show support but have no spare Lindens then just by joining the support group in Siren Lexenstar or Zun Sahara's profiles will be much appreciated.
Many Thanks for reading
**The people of Gaia**

Now… what would YOU do if you get a letter from your landlord that you will be kicked out if you don’t pay your rent?

Hmmm good question... I would freak… BUT what made it come that far to get kicked out? I mean… you know months in advance that you need to pay rent. And I would do anything to get that cash to pay my rent. I would go to friends and family to ask them if they can help me. I would ALSO get a job! Yes… a job is a good way of getting money. Or a bank robbery but I wouldn’t recommend that.

Now… what IF you had a kid… and knew that payment was due any minute cuz you had many letters about it… would you still be playing SL? Would you still grief ppl in a GAME instead of doing what SHOULD BE done?

I think somebody here needs a reality check. THIS is a REAL WORLD where you need to pay for REAL or you will be in big troubles FOR REAL.

Some reactions that reached me:
“if the man would turn off the computer and god damn work like he is supposed to, this would not happen”
“it is sad when we both attempted to help him long ago his addiction on here is out of control maybe a walk in reality will do him good”
“xxx strongly suggest Pierce to check into Hospice places and his local shelter and churches as they can help IMMEDIATELY to find him a place”
"Again he plays a victim. This is a bad way of winning sympathy. And his RL shit should be kept out of SL"
"sickening note eh? almost poetic justice for him. he is pathetic. I have told people that from the beginning."
"Cheers to the King without a castle"

OK. So IF it was true…
Then I am really sorry for the kid to have Pierce as his dad…
Knowing he wasn’t there for the kid, as in working to give him his needs, but only for his SL addiction. I will leave the 'sick Ex-wife'out of the picture... IF it was true...

Am I a bad person that I write all this?
Am I a bad person to question the mans motives?
Am I a bad person to warn ppl about him?
Am I a bad person when I make him cry after he reads this?

I don’t think so.

I think this can also be seen as a warning to all ppl that do NOT WANT TO WORK cuz of their SL addiction.

And of course... the almost homeless 'King of Fools' is online in Sl... IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT!
Shouldn't he be packing???

I think somebody needs a reality check. AND A GOOD ONE.
REAL LIFE isn’t a game. We can NOT teleport away from our REAL LIFE problems


01/12/2010 Destination: Pierce Ackmann L$1

Background history, oldest post to newest (yeah yeah, it is ALOT):
http://essieradford.blogspot.com/2009/10/you-bitch-me-or-my-friends-i-bitch-you.html
http://essieradford.blogspot.com/2009/11/such-poor-sod.html
http://essieradford.blogspot.com/2009/11/he-has-shit-in-his-pants.html
http://essieradford.blogspot.com/2009/11/andddd-he-just-loves-meeeeeee.html
http://essieradford.blogspot.com/2009/11/o-dear-o-dear.html
http://essieradford.blogspot.com/2009/11/sighs.html
http://essieradford.blogspot.com/2009/11/he-is-king-of-fools.html
http://essieradford.blogspot.com/2009/12/another-day-with-my-new-found-love.html
http://essieradford.blogspot.com/2009/12/jester-tos.html
http://essieradford.blogspot.com/2009/12/we-rawk.html

56 comments:

Baronika said...

well, this is just nasty dear essi.
One thing it to be nasty in a game but puking on people that in irl have extrem need for help is just ...shameless. I hope people that call you a friend will help you to understand there is a limit for hate and putting people down.

And offcourse this is true els i would not help him. And by the way like i would help you if you where in need to.

SL is a game Essie, this is not a game and seeing you typing down this kind of disgust on real people is leaving me nothing but sad, not only on the behalf of people that are in need, but also you and people who support this kind of heartless statements.

Zun

Essie Radford said...

Sent to me by a close friend:

"A True Gorean Male would never place themselves in a position of being a Master in which they no longer controlled their environment in which case, they can no longer provide a safe and secure environment for their girls and then expecting others to provide it for them, such is the part of a a male slave not a Master"

Unknown said...

Couple of quick words about this all, and lets just let these words speak for themselves. Honor, Respect, and Integrity, being unashamed of ones self or actions, I think those about sum it all up. If one can always look in the mirror and be not ashamed of themselves or their actions, and never once have to ponder or contemplate if they are doing the right thing in regards to Mastering the world around them, then all is well, if one has to on bended knee "beg, borrow or steal" then there is a huge problem within the Honor and integrity part of it all. Just a couple of points to ponder in the relevant conversation taking place.

Unknown said...

One thing, let us all keep in mind, we all come upon hard times at some point, however how we handle those things, is how we are perceived by others. Many will say "I do not care, how I am seen by others", that in the microcosm of self may be true, however society dictates the standard, and since we are not of the true Gorean Society, we can not allow those things to dictate our behavior, though, when someone continues to claim that is what they are completely and utterly in the real as well as in the sl environment, (Which I will not call a game as to many of us it is not) the sociological norm is that we must adhere to the relevance of the entirety of the situation, unfortunately when someone has clouded those issues with self righteous suicide of their own perceived embodiment of self, then there is nothing left to look for other than total failure on their part, in which case, this is self evident in numbers. So with all things equal in judgement, as I know not the one person such things are being spoken about except through a one side part of it all. One old saying rings true, if you cant hang with the big dogs get the hell under the porch!

Baronika said...

so you reply on your nasty putting irl peopel down whit a comment from a bsdm rp.

Where is your real life understanding and compassion whit people who are in need.

I do not and i will never understand people who sit on a high horse spitting on the starving, homeless and troubled humans beings.

I belive strongly that when ever we spit out hatefull words and hatefull statements about our fellow human beings we do call upon our self to be seen truly for our actions when we do so.

I do ineed hope that you grow up to become a person that will regret this blakc and white pictures you seems to be caught in.

I dont know you Essie radford and you dont know me like you dont know any of the people you speak so ill of in your blog.

All i can do is tell you how sad i become , really really sad to see this kind of hatefull and mean picking on people that already are lying down.

You like to also pick on me that as i recall have done nothing aginst you never knew you or know you. You like to tell people about my bad spelling well knowing i am dylexia whihc in it self show you i hope for people who read your nasty bugging about it , as some one whit no deeper understadning.

You will never find me speaking about you in this way.
I do not know you Essie radford but you do truly come out as a young person whit very littel compasion and very littel understanding for ohter people.

I must agian tell you, all you do is making me sit in down here looking at my screen and feel nothing but sad....
I dont juge you , as said if anyone told me you where homeless and had need for help i would help you as well caus i do not know you and i wont juge this madness that i am reading.

So all i can say is ...
Your words just make me feel sad, so very sad on behalf of the world that seems to have gone so mad that it is ok to spit on people that have no home no food and no help.

It is not your fault alone Essie Radford, it seems to be a commone problem in this times that is is a cool thing to act like this and almost have become fashion to speak evil and strongly downputting people in needs.

It is a sad world indeed that we life in and your blog just remind me how sad it has all become.

Gabs said...

Okay folks before we continue to talk about this man as if one side were beating him down and another his hero Lets look at the facts here no lies … no pity the TRUTH which seems to be lacking..

This man is not a poor individual who has run upon unfortunate circumstances.. That as we all know in today’s economy has happen to lots of ppl we know..This is the truth about what is happening.. and I was at one point the one that would ask that he turn off the computer long enough to take care of simple things like working…. Making money…taking care of his son… I have heard his son in the background begging for attention from his father … and also heard this man refuse to turn off the computer long enough to give the child proper attention.. As far as employment the man works from home and has every opportunity to put forth the effort to bring in a steady income…..

Instead he refuses to turn off second life long enough to take care of responsibilities.. this is a choice he has made.. a refusal to take care of responsibility.. the true sadness in all this is that he expects that strangers take care of him instead of taking the initiative to do what we all have to do to survive..

He has chosen this, he has all the tools he needs not get himself out of this …instead he begs others ????? this is unacceptable.. if he had ended up in this situation due to unfortunate circumstances everyone here would lend a hand and help out … BUT HE CHOOSES not to work … HE CHOOSES not to take care of his responsibility … this is a fact and he has a self admitted addiction… but think on this … he hungers for attention so badly this plea for him however realistic it might be he is in this self inflicted situation… he also gets great pleasure in seeing how many he can manipulate…. The longer ppl keep enabling this behavior the longer it will be before he re-stabilizes
FACT

Baronika said...

Dear Gabby

I need to say to you this, no matter what people do or do not in this world it is of my belive that when they are in desperat need I cant ignore the fact that they are here and now in thos needs.
I do now sadly the world more and more look at people on the strees and say to them self it is thir own fault they are there and therefor they dont help them.

I dont need to say that your personal involment whit this man does some how color your words.

I do not have any anger on Pierce knowing him in 3 years he never as i told you did any of this things you tell me he did to you.

I do on the ohter hand not tell you i belive you lie. I do belive things and situations can be seen in many diffrent ways.

But i do need to stick to the fact that he never did it to me.

And no matter what any one did. like reading all the hate on my self on this homepage , i would if essie radford neede me to help be there for her as well.

It is a chois i took in my life Gabby that i do not want to look at people in need whit hate and anger.
I have my self done many mistakes and done a lot of wrong and I my self have to juge me before i juge any one els. This go for you, for essies radford and for pierce.

And no matter what dear gabby i do not in any way see any one being in needs of help deserving this kind of hate.

None.

But ok this is what we argue about on this dialog.

We do see things diffrent and we do choos to act diffrent.

I my self do not want to hold grudge aginst anyone that are in irl trouble. I find it a poor behaivoir and in the end that is what the karma law is all about.

Are you abel to lift your self over anger and hatefull emotions and see when ohter people need you.

And this world have a great deal to learn about this .

True love and true compasin is tell all holy men and woman in this world to forgive your enenmi and be there for him or her as well for your frineds.

it is always so easy to forgive when no one ask you to overvome your own anger.

The true love and true compasion show in thos people who can forgive and show them self bigger than what where done to them

In the end

this is what i sepak of

and this is a point i want you to think about

In all good meaning

Zun

Baronika said...

And by the way. he did not choos his xwife to get cancer ...
i find it kinda interesting how you make every thing look so balck and white in this dialog.

This man is not a monster..

He is a human being

he has fault and he did mistakes
and so what

how can you sit and yell and juge him for what he did

most of the time i see you guys speaking very ill of ohter people and none is being said back as far as i can see

i see no hatefull blogs from his side, nor hatefull words like this..

and i do not do that either..

i find it so amzingly poor gabby

so poor a world we life in where this is how we treat each ohter
felling fun and happynes when ohter people suffer

what is that?

is that the world we want to create

I get more and more depresed the more i read and write in this dialog.

Itis so so so so sad

Unknown said...

Dear Zun;
Truth of the matter is simple, you say SL is a game, yet the love the emotions the feelings, the decisions we make there effect our rl as well, believe it or not, gabby has moved past most of the things that she felt, she and I are very happy together, but when people bring things to our door about someone out of our past, that we have time and again tried to let go of, to be the bigger person and just ignore and move on and be happy, how else do people expect us to react? Personally, I dont know Pierce very well, just met him here and there, and I hold no judgement about him, I do however hold to my Lady I do listen to her, when she vents about things, and how she wishes people would just leave her alone about him, as she has no wish to be part of him or anything involving him again, ever, in those things I stand beside her, just as I will a month from now, when I am literally at her side, not just in the sl environment. So as people continually bring it to her about him, and wont let the past reside there, in the past, I gave her full reign in dealing with it as she see's fit. As what many do not know is that she and I had come to the decision after a certain line of clothing she had done, that was it, no more it was over, no animosity no more worries no more wasted energies on the matter. However, people could not let sleeping dogs lay, and continued to pummel her with his activities. If people do not wish to know the things that have happened the logs I have read, the entirety of the events of things, then perhaps next time they will keep in mind Gabby Delion and the rest of Knights Innovations staff really do not wish to hear about it, and would possibly be in their best interest, to remember at this point right here right now, we do not care about anyone else's problems nor what has happened in the past, we are looking to the future in all aspects of the word. So with that said and done, when it comes to Pierce and his 80 million alts, and his rl person behind the keys, from here out, do not think we even give a inkling of care, or compassion on such things, because we do not, like a bad chapter of a book we read, its on the shelf and done and over with. Just if that book and chapter is mentioned again keep in mind the most infamous motto I live by, never ask a question or make a comment your not prepared to hear the brutal honest reply to.
With that said I wish you well, I hope in my heart things work out for him, but me and mine will not be part of it.

Delion Ivercourt

Baronika said...

Dear Charels

I would like to know why do you then write about pierce when you dont want to take part of it.

Why does Gabby?

You do both speak of things that happned in the past, you juge it to and then you say you dont.

My point is...

I dont.

and here we are diffrent.

Regards Zun

Unknown said...

wanna show me where any statement I made was directed at pierce? you can not because I did not. I made general comments, but then psychologically speaking you already knew that you just did not know what else to say.

Baronika said...

i did not speak to you jim ??

Unknown said...

My comment was not at you Baronika the previous post I was replying to was removed my apologies for the misunderstanding.

tchebbe said...

ok this has been bugging me all day ever since I read this blog this morning. I dont know any of you but I do know Essie through SL. this is my story. Ive been homeless and their are ways to get your self out of this situation. I became homeless not because I was on SL but because I lost my job. I was a over the road truck driver for 15 years during those 15 years I really had no home and I also had two daughters that I had to take care of , when the man I worked for decided that he wasnt going to be in the trucking business any longer I lost everything which wasnt the first time but now it was harder I had to find a way to put a roof over my daughter heads and find another job to make a living for them . I did what I had to do for them NOT for me for them I did what I thought was best for them and in that proecess of trying to provide for them , their Daddys family made it so that I could not get in touch with them, but that still did not stop me. I had no one to turn to for help , at one point we were sleeping under a pine tree in the town where were we lived at the time , I finally found a homeles shelter and from there I picked myself back up and put them with their daddys brother and his family and tried to get things back on track for them and myself ,even though I knew that I was not liked in that family I did what I thought to be best for them , not a day goes by that I dont cry in my heart for them, and yearn to see them so much, reason why Im telling this now for everyone to see is because one if this person wants to make it he will not by playing on everyones emotions , and as far as being made fun of because of Desleiya or how ever you spell it , so what I might have that too but I'll be Damned if Im going to use that as a cruch Hell I laugh at my own bad spelling. Essie do you laugh at my bad spelling too, theheeh , I have seen it written that actions speak louder then words , well this is very true , if you actions are to always play on the pity of others and their emotions then who when the time is really needed will come to your aid , its like crying wolf , and yes I do agree , if you know that you are in this situation then you should find ways to get yourself out of it , yes sometimes you might have to ask for a little bit of help but DONT expect the world to come to your aid because you have an Addaction and you have put yourself in this situation if you KNOW you have a problem then wouldnt you KNOW to get help with said problem when something consumes your life to the point that you have lost all since of reality then no matter what or how much money that is given its going to be the same always ,maybe this person should take a step into reality. and NO Ive not told this because I want pity , or someone to feel sorry for me , I told this to prove a point , IF YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH THEN YOU WILL MAKE IT RIGHT, and thats NOT judging anyone that is just the plain facts , so dont come with all these situations he has let his self fall in , he did these his self so there for it is up to him to make the choice of what is more important and that is not judging thank you IM done now

Baronika said...

What i dont get is ?

DO you guys need to sit down and laugh and make fun of a man in need..

Is this what you are...
really are abaout...
you find it funny that ohter people suffer??

is this what this world have become...

And jim i would like to know what post where deltet..

so you have a copy please

Unknown said...

It was from Charles, and the pose was deleted that he made how am I suppose to have a copy. As for the rest I have been homeless myself earlier in my life, and I help anyone I can who make an effort or puts forth an effort to help themselves.

Unknown said...

Zun, I was making thought processes in general. I was not talking ill of anyone, however I stand behind gabby and her thoughts and her beliefs in this matter, as what she does for a living has proven over 40 thousand times last year alone, that she has made a lifetime commitment to helping people. Truth is quite simply, we do not at this point care what happens to him. I am sure as I just got off the phone with gabby she will be replying on her own behalf, but you also need to know this, if I thought she was wrong on this matter I would tell her she was wrong on this matter. Addiction is addiction, many people have lost their homes their entire lives over addictions be it drugs, women, or even internet addictions. It is never the less an addiction, for many, I will not say it is in anyones case in this as I am just making general comments about things already stated, hence I have yet to speak ill about Pierce, but trust me, I have some thoughts on that subject, that I leave right where they are, in my mind alone.

Jim, sorry I had misread your earlier comment and thought you had said something about Pierce I removed the comment.

Baronika said...

ok jim...
what i wantet to say here is

I do know this

when we are in desperat situations
we do need to know we are worthy
and that some one cares..

that is what safed me when i was lorst

what i find interesting in this blog is seeing an amzing hatefull and a great deal of disgust and making fun of a person that no matter what ever he did is truly in need of help and some one that cares..

what i do react aginst is that and only that..

i do not see my self on any sides here i do not know essie radford
and i my self have the honour to be a person she like to hate on this blog s well
i dontknow for what reason

but at least i am not homeless and i am not feeling any anger or sadness over what she is wrting aginst me
caus i am not in a vonourbel situation

pierce on the ohter hand is
and as a genereal argument about how we treat our fellow beings
i am trying to put this blog in a perspektive of that
namely how come it have become cool and fun to write so mean about a person in a bad situation

i dont get that

who is the people behind the screens that find it ok to be so mean at ohther people
and make fun and feel high togther on the behalf of a person that are in deeply troubel

i find that so very sad
and that is what i try make clear here

Baronika said...

dear charles

you do say things about a man that you do not know in irl
none here does really

this is not about internet addiction
this is a dialog about how we speak of ohter people in need

i do not find it ok to laugh and make fun of people in troubles

that is all i say
you can offcoruse say no to help out
i dont asked you to

i am commenting on essieradfords nasty blog making fun of a person in irl trobules and our trying to help him out

i find it no matter what you say or do , very very sad

Unknown said...

Zun show me one line of where I spoke ill of Pierce or spoke wrongly about him at all? there is none in any of my writing, I am making general statements, not directed statements, but when I am told things and shown things, I can see why it would appear they are directed at him, when in truth the things I have said hit home with so many people. I have yet to say one negative thing about him, what I said was I stand behind gabby and her words, so there yes I guess it could be said I spoke ill about him, as I stand behind what she has written.

You are quite correct in the fact that many in todays society look poorly upon the misfortunate, however, never confuse how people perceive things, as being bad perceptions, as a persons actions and own words many time more often then not will show a persons true self. (Just to clarify I am speaking in general and not to that of anyone else, this post is not directed at any misfortunate individuals at all, just the ramblings of a old man)

Baronika said...

Well let me try put it in this way then...
I do not bug you whit pierce

I am writing on essie radfords blog caus she is making fun of me and ohters trying to help aperson in need and i do remind you agian
i do care also if you where in trouble and if essie where

here on this blog i am called a bitch among many ohter things from a person that do not know me
that i never spoke to but that one time which is also copyed here in this blog
and i am merly trying to put this hate in a perskeptive
for uppersit you dear charles , i do care for how we communicat and i do care for how we behave to each ohter and i do care when my fellow human beings are in need..

so what i disuss whit you are the communication where ohter people like essies radford are making fun and by the way telling a lot of not true things , i do know this for some of her wrtings are about me and they are truly not rigth put down....

and to be honorst whit you chrales
i am so fed up whit mean and nasty making fun of people in trobule dominating the dialogs all over

when it comes to gabby she have never done any wrong to me
all the uppersit really gabby have been very nice and very friendly to me all the time

and where a good freidn of mine

her personal realtion whit pierce i do not involve my self in

all i can say is
i am not gabbys enemi
like i am not your enemi

like i am in the end neither essies radfords eneime

what i read here is drama , hatefull outlet on ohter people and a gruop of howling wolfs that find it interesting to spit on people lying down

and i am tired of saying nothing back at that

so in the end
this argumetn is not between you and me chearles
it is not between me and gabby

it is between me and every one that find essie radfords nasty blog funny

Magda said...

Ok I know Pierce for a while and there is and always will be drama behind his twists and turn of his sl and rl. I have t say i do not believe a word he says. Sorry i have been through multitudes of fake suicides, home loss that werent true, countless miscarriages. etc. All mind you that were prove to be in the end not true. So call Essie whatever you want. I know Pierce longer than all his groupies and I can tell you very interesting stories about him. And you know what how pathetic you got to be to beg on sl for money? come on alright stop the shit. Pierce get off of SL and get a job and stop begging for you rent in here. Shit isnt even true most likely. Sorry seen way too many lies in here to think other wise. No worries Essie this bitch here got your back. Hey say what you want about me. i never faked any rl shit to get money or sympathy. Peace!!!

Baronika said...

i dont beg monye, i try help a person in need and rigth now i am happy to inform you that we just where a part of helping pierce to be able to pay for rent in a new home.
and all the people that stand up and where helping him hvae been a part of that real life crises solving.

I am sorry that people lied to you but i am not sorry i am writing here and calling this nasty.

What i see and what i know is that we are helping a person in need and what ever you have of any background in a cartoon world in a game whit some one have nothing to do whit this irl troubled situation.

I do whish for you all you could try sepprate what is going on in a cartoon world and in real life.

And i do hope for you some one would "beg" monye to help you when ever you need help

Magda said...

You cant separate it yourself it looks like you spend all day glued to this blog jeeze woman go rp of go shopping. Like I said you guys do not know him for as long as i have so yeah. Oh and i can separate real fine. If thid is all true then go get that money for his rent and stop waiting every sec for a comment on essie's blog. Do you have an alarm on your computer that goes off when someone writes here? Good Lord

Essie Radford said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Baronika said...

I happen to sit and work on the computer and look here reading to.
Why does it borther you i write respons on your words?
Should i not?
Would that make you feel better about your self ?

Magda said...

Aww how cute and catty you are. "you leave my pierce alone now you big meanies."

Baronika said...

Why do you want to make me smaller than i am?

I would do the same for you

Magda said...

No dear cause i would never lie like that or even if it was true not look to my virtual friends to help me out. Hun he always has money problems when i heard he hooked up with essie as far as realms and such i never said a word give it a chnace i said and low and behold pierce was making shit up and starting drama. You cant tell me anything positive about that man many of us in sl that have rped with him know all about how his character is. How many bridges did he burn before hi dropped in your lap ? why not find out?

Baronika said...

I think i am one of the people that have knowen him for longest time
I haven been around him in almost 3 years and he never begged me for any monye nor did any of the things people tell me about him.

So thing is in my world i dont juge on rumors or ohter second hand information.

I see what people do and do not and in the end i dont juge any one.

But agian, i am not young nor am i invoving my self emotional in people when i do rp.

Rp is an act and gor is a sex fantasy book some one wrote one time.

I am very sure this writer would be sad to see his fantsy novel being used to put down people in needs and torubles.

tchebbe said...

Ive sat here and read every single comment that everyone has made , I do not See anyone putting him down , there is a BIG difference , this man as far as I can tell NEEDS HELP judging or not judging everyone here is speaking what they see , and have experienced in rl. YOU DONT LET THE INTERNET RULE YOUR LIFE!!!! To the point that you lose your home who you are and you sure dont go begging to others to bail you out of a problem that you created yourself you keep claming that everyone is telling lies on him < well might be if it was one person but open your eyes and it really doesnt matter how old or how young you are if you blind to the truth your blind and it doesnt have a damn thing to do with how the world treats someone < they bring that on their selves you keep trying to play this all high and mighty I dont judge any one , thats in its self is a lie for we all judge , regaurdless how much we try not to we do and really you your self are trying to play the Miss HIgh horse along with the poor little pityful me , Grow up in your mind, he put his self in this situation no one else , he did and HE will have to figure out what is more important , his child , his life or SL , I dont know of any company yet that has figured out how to put the human body inside a damn computer , if so I think we would all try to switch back and forth , so with that I dont think anyone else wants to hear how much of a friend you are to him and how everybody is just putting poor little perice down , WHY dont you give him a place to live if you are so much inclinced to believe that he really needs help , he can always get his act together and then go back to be with his son. If he is any kind of man he will do what he has to do to make sure that things happen in the right way and NOT just to see if he can get hand outs from the internet. So I say and probalay everbody else thinks the same thing SHUT UP And stop defending him.

Magda said...

AMEN TO THAT

Baronika said...

Are you a child ?
This is just whit out any logic or any reason at all ?

I cant even understand what your point is.
This is just not even interesting to read.

Baronika said...

so i assume you guys find it ok to laugh at a person in need of help

what a sad world we life in
and what a sad life people have in this world whit no heart and no intrest in each ohter.

It leaves me whit almost whishing for you to try be in real trobules to understand ...
Then we might have a hope that the world can become a better place.

Not that you 3 or 4 people are the world.

I am happy to know that i am not alone in beliving in a world where we take care of each ohter

Baronika said...

And by the way people saying shut up to me in a dialog, just make me numb, like in who is speaking like that and commuicating like that?

Intelligent adults ?

Gabs said...

I will have to agree with all on this accept for Zun and for the record i in real life have dedicated my entire life to getting poeple out of poverty.. I have sacrificed the " big dollars of corporate" to do so...and why is this ... because i was homeless as well myself and an 8 month old daughter .. but see i had money stolen from me that was intended for rent .. i was young and trusted the wrong person.... That is circumstance
defined as:
An unforeseen occurance in ones life that has caused an adverse effect.....such as Tchebbes situation, mine and many others in this world and over 40,000 people i helped this last year.. I recovered and made a commitment to give back which has (even though a game ) incorporated itself into my SL life it is why i give like i do..

I dont take it as an insult that Zun has no understanding of my motivations for saying these things , but i deal with these situations daily and it is easy for me to identitfy after all these years...

This is not a unfortunate circumstance situation this was a choice to not work, to not bring income into his house , to not eat because he cannot tear himself away long enough.. This i can speak from first hand knowledge .. He wakes up in the moorning and there is decision made " do i work or do i play on secondlife" and the choice is SL... this will be the 3rd month he has gotten perfect strangers to take care of his responsibilities.. Have they been duped ?? that i cannot assume as i have no fact however it does appear to be a habit...

Now a short comment about the xwife comment , this man provides no support to his xwife and the knowledge of his x having cancer ( if the truth) happened AFTER he had gotten someone in Gaia to shell out 200.00 USD for the previous months rent or more .... he has 2 computers and a few rings ... as i suggested to him he should look into selling those things before expecting perfect strangers to foot the bill....

now with all that being said i dont suppose anyone "helping " him has suggested this ... particularly not you ZUN...because you need him here .. you have a vested financial interest in his staying addicted to this thing... i saw your sim die when he left and it recover when he returned ... it is quite obvious your motivation in all this ... so if you buy his tale .. then instread of asking SL to be responsibile for his financial well - being i would suggest you take care of the man yourself.. You seem to be his "mother figure " i would highly reccommend you tell your son to get off his butt ... the computer.. and work....but i know you wont because you need him here... truly not caring for the mans over all health and well being.. and that ends my comments.. i will not speak on this anylonger

Just today woman in my office , 4 children lost her job , husband abandoned her shortly after... living in her car... That is circumstance... that is how i spent my day... and by the end of today ..she has an interview and an apartment.. the children have warm coats and a shower... they dont even know secondlife ... but i will bet if this woman had a choice.. she would have chose to turn off the computer faced with a choice between that and sleeping in a cold car....

Baronika said...

Dear gabby
I know you do belive i "need" pierce in sl. I dont.

I have no problem whit selling neither does the partners in this sim.
It is not that impotant to us really.

So before you put any motivation in me, trying to make me look selvish or what ever you try so here now i just want to make that clear.

I really am not that stucked that i cant let a stamp of cartoon go if neede.

And for your prejument on my personal motivation on how i do or do not help people in irl i could as you do list a lot of diffrent things i have done and ofcoruse will keep doing, like you ask me why i dont help my self.

Well i did, and i helped a lot but as i told you i am very poor irl single mother whit no big monye comming in, but i did give all i had for now and that was really everything possible.

Which as far as i know is a lot for pierce in the situation he is in now.

When it comes to an end Gabby i dontunderstand why you want me to become your uppersit. i do belive we are in many ways alike i just did not have a sexual realtion to pierce as you did and alot of the people writng on this page did.

I dont involved my self personal in this man like you did
so mabye
and i am just saying mabye your anger on him would be less if you did not have a personal realtion to him
and how that can affeckt you and me in our good relation
i dont understand
like i dont understand you need to make up bad motivations for me to try help a human being in need

i never did anything wrong to you
like i never spoke ill of you
like i dont intend to jump on your balck andwhite need to put me in a borderline enemie position for you

i am not your enemi

i did not have sex whit you
like i did not do any of the things you say pierce did to you

why on earht do you need to make me in to some one i am not

is it not possbile for you in your anger on your personal relation to him to understand there is people who does not have this past whit him you have

i haveknowen him way longer than you have gabby
way longer than i knowen you
and i have not seen or heared or in any way had that going on whit pierce you had.

he never lied to me
he never fucked me over
he never made me real mad at him
he never yelled at me
he never put me down
and when he moved to lady that have a aister that fucks her boyfirends it seems i never where feeling in any way anger

peoeple are free
like ladys sister are free to fuck ladys boyfriends

it is really not of my intrest

my intrest is to stop people lauging over troubled people in irl
and whit your backgruond
i find it difficult to belive you sit and laugh of crises and people that are in trouble

if you do
you do not belong in that job
at all

Baronika said...

And by the way i was homeless for 6 years alone whit a kid
and what did that do to me

it did that to me that i do understand the struggels poor people have caus i have been one of them
and this makes me feel compasion for ohters

i truly learned form that
and make a big diffrences in many people life understanding this

it is a shame to see that your homeless situation did not teach you the same letion

Gabs said...

None of this i find funny.. frankly i find it absolutely disgusting that a grown man with the capability and the resources unlike my clients... chooses to beg instead of put forth true effort to help himself as well.. instead he preys on those that are like you using pity to support him rather then true effort... i hold nothing for the man.. not even anger.. the reason is i dont care..i like many others that have been duped by him have had a more in depth look into what he does and how he is motivated.. no matter how long you think you have known him... i have rationalized even in your defense when he would speak ill of you... with that being said .. you can attempt to insult me all you like....but i heard this first hand.... it was so bad that i used to have to bribe him to turn off the computer and work ... make calls ... these things are not insults but fact and many have tried to help him .... you seem to be one of the few still blinded .. and this is unfortunate i will no longer waste my mental energy on those not worth it and this will be my last post in this matter ... what your forgetting is that none of us made a choice to be in a bad situation... he chooses this everytime he doesnt make calls... doesnt follow up on leads... and this came from hearing it first hand.....i will not get into a banter with you especially when you question my integrity... but lastly as i stated in the beginning... this is disgusting to me and to compare his situation with ANY of the people that walk through my door is and insult to them...

Baronika said...

I dont qustion your intregyti
you make me anenemie
i am not

i dont feel blinede
i did not have sex whit him
you had
i did not have lovers figth whit him you had
and i dont mind people sepaking bad to me
it does not change the fackt that when they are in need

i will be there
what i dont get is

why do you try make me your enmei

is it hard for you to accept that i do not have the same problems whit him you had

is it so hard to accept
that i never saw whit you saw

why do you need to make me like what you saw whit him

i am not
i am a diffrent person

and i am not the only one that do not have this troubles whit pierce

we are many more than me

and in the end
who cares if it is pierce or essie that are on the strets gabby

we help people when they need us

not when they can find out them self

and why do you and your boy friedn write on this page if you do not care

why do you keep arguing whit me
i am not on your homepage

i am on essie radfors homepage

is it possible you do ask for some kind of negative attention
i statet out this dialog
caus peopel here seems to find it funny human beings are in trobules

and then you come in trying to make me in to something i am not

why do you need to do that ?

tchebbe said...

your not getting it are you , and as I stated before its not a matter of age , dont know how old you but your just not getting it. NOT at all your lost in what world I dont know just dont want to be there.someone that has not that much money take away from their own family to help someone that has gotten their own self in the situation they are in is NOT a good thing , you never give what the cubhard can not bare. There are many others that need and I do mean Really do need help but there is no way that I would give what I know would cause me to might be in the same situation they are in. there are other ways of helping instead of trying to act like your all high and mighty , why dont you call church's , the salavation army , the red cross these are organizations that are there to help , Second Chance all these are there to help and stop acting like all of us are making fun of someone or that we are putting someone down , no that is not what anyone is doing and its not about the matter of putting a pixelated dick in a pixelated pussy , its that fact as I stated before , Someone needing medical help that no one here can give. I said shut up we dont want to hear you keep going on and on it sounds like you are the one trying to be the victem and you thrive on all this drama, you keep bringing up age , Age doesnt have anything to do with having since to know what is going on. and if you REALLY want to know I'll be 50 my birthday and have probalay learned and seen more in my life time then you will ever understand. so tell me again what the Fucking hell does age have to do with anything.in other words I might not be a vet, but I know a horse's ass when I see one

Baronika said...

and i do not try to insult you

i have repeatet here servel times kind words about you and how i saw you

why do you think i try insult you

are you trying to provoke me in to become the person you so hard want me to be
an ass
a blind person
some one selvish
some one that want perice being on street caus i need my sim in sl

all this negative outlets about me

gabby what did i do wrong to you
but to keep telling your that your realaity is not mine
why is it so hard for you to accpt i dont have that

why do you need to make me your enemie in your mind
is there no grey zones in your way of seeing life
is every one thatpierce did not harm assholes in your eyes ?

Baronika said...

so a 50 years old person say shut up and think i am a horse ass ?

well that does not make it any better does it now

Baronika said...

and really
i dont see "drama" in this

i see a real dialog about how sad the world is when people on 50 say shut up and make a dialog build on having fun on ohter peoples troubles ....

that is importnat
mabye you dont know it seeing horses asses all over

but i know it is

Baronika said...

by the way pierce never begged for help
the fondrasing that made it possible for him to get a new home now
where my idea

not his

so still he have not begged me for any monye
and i surly do not feel like a victime
uppersit lady gabby and so many ohters i do not let people fuck my sisters fuck me over yell at me in phones at nigth
i hang up
kick my sister out of my life
and solve problesm like an adult

Pierce said...

For those of you who make my life your obsession. I am just a man. I have never claimed to be a real life Gorean Master. I do not even rp gor or have a homestone.Gabby does not know the full extent of my real life she thinks when she was my suppposed rl slave she learned who I really am she did not. Not one of you has the right to judge me. Essie has never even met me or spoke to me in ims or public chat and and i began seeing nasty things on this blog about me she is just deranged and obsessed on my av character. I still do not know why. So now the deranged and my x sl girl if she really ever was have united in the anti Pierce blogshow. Now she has gone to far commenting on my life in real life never even taking the time to know me. Gabby is a pretend rl slave and fake free woman with many slut alts has alot of her own personal rl delusions she needs to combat these and needs to stay out of my real life. Zun, or Baronika your heart is good and intentions pure. I knew the heartless among us would act like this and I accepted your kind offer to raise money. My pride can go out the window if it helps my son at all. The 80 dollars that the people of sl gave me wont go along way it just helps warm my heart and keeps me going knowing that some people are genuine friends in real life. Essie can spend the rest of her life talking about me on her blog if that get her off. It seems to get off essie regularly. Wait til she turns this anger on the rest of you. Watch out. Your personal ims are not safe where Essie is concerned. Gabby can continue to discuss me even after months now of usnot speaking. Gabby too has an obsession with me. It it really rediculus that people enjoy beating a man when he is down. I am that just a man. Not a King, Not of science fiction novel, not a super human being just me. May you all be well, I am because for even in my darkest hour I have friends. Thank you for those who spoke kind of me today. I am out getting a new home and looking for a second job as i have been for months.

Pierce

Baronika said...

how can a fiction book any way become a real thing
this gor idea from a fiction novel is the most weird concept in the world

does people have a hard time sepperating fiction from real life whit that ?

tchebbe said...

as I said , you dont get it. you couldnt even see that statement for what it means you were not called a horse's ass , that is a statement meaning, you dont have to be very smart to see what is going on. as the rest are seeing. As for Essie , she tells you plain she has the right as we all do to share IM'S guess what its her right and she does have it written as do I. if you got something to hide then maybe it should stay hidden if you dont want others to know about it , but as the old saying goes what you do in the dark does come to the light

Baronika said...

I have nothing to hide...
What should that be ?

And what is it i dont get...
Being stupid like a horse ass ?
Is that the level we are on here
being 50 and all

I dont even know how to reply on this meaninglesness

But let me make this clear to you
If you where on the strets i would help you as well
do you understand what that means

that means i forgive you for speaking to me like this
and juging me like you do
and trying to make me look bad in this dialog
caus you dont know any better than you have to be in a very veyr bad situation to understand that very few people would stand up for what i now promis you

if you need me
i will be there
no matter what you call me now

so in the end
you are the one not getting any thing

and i get it all

for i understand one thing when we lie dying what we face is what we did, how we actet and did we ever make a diffrence for people
where we able to become bigger in just a brife moment than our self
where we able to be some one for people we know
where we doing a diffrence on this earht

or did we just sit and puke on people and lauging when they where in troubles

Magda said...

Oh hush already have you seen the amount of posts you have there? some one after the other please just give the fingers a rest. He can write all he wants and you can swear you know him longer than only but ya dont know him longer than a bunch of us do and believe me when his name comes up if it does there are huge groans of not that one again after it. Now please dont answer yiourself in posts it makes you look like ya need help

Baronika said...

so you that i dont know like to sit here and want me to look sik as well

it is whit out any reason and whit out any compasion
why do you want me to look bad to magda
what have i done wrong to you
and yes i know pierce
i have been close whit him for 3 years
and a lot of the things written on this dialogs are lies
not true
why do you need me to standout as sik
does it make you feel good about your self

do you really belive you writing like this make people that read this blog and belive me there will be many caus i want people to see how you guys speak and act

will see me as sik replying on your insulting and rude words

you dont know me
you will proberly never know me
but let me tell you this

i feel sorry for this wrold
that there is people that belive in speaking bad like this
and putting ohter people down
it is a wolrd of pain
and deep pain that can speak liek this and feel good about them self

for them i feel sorry
meaning i feel sorry for you as well

tchebbe said...

to all this is a no win situation this one has to have the last word so no matter what anyone says it will keep on going and going cause this one has a problem of not knowing when to let anything drop things have been said that seems like everyone excludeing myself know what this is all about. its like an itch they HAVE to have the last word. so the only way to stop this is for none of us to relpy after this they will have to talk with their self , Heard Early bird gets the worm last bird gets the shit will that statement will ring true if there is another post posted after this one. We will know about that last bird.

Baronika said...

so you think this is about winning

it is not

there is no winner or no loosere in this dialog

there is only sadness really
i am sorry you cant see that

Essie Radford said...

The main question that was asked was the following: “IF you had a kid… and knew that payment was due any minute cuz you had many letters about it… would you still be playing SL?” Also a part of the discussion was SL addiction. And I am glad that MOST understood and agreed that they would do ANYTHING to get out of the shit!

Many people forget that SL is a game and is meant for people to meet each other and have FUN. And REAL people with REAL feelings are behind that screen…

But when I read all the bullshit about Zun and Pierce, what they did to people is just wrong. People left SL cuz of those 2 or made a new account.

It is WRONG to make personal, confidential stuff public in SL when somebody doesn’t want to roleplay with you anymore… It is WRONG to invade parties and GRIEF there! It is wrong to PUSH PEOPLE AROUND so you can benefit from it…

YOU TWO only think and care about yourself. You don’t care about the people that you hurt!
I had so many notecards about you two…from strangers and friends, merchants and simowners about YOU TWO griefing them and their members… that I feel you two should be perm banned from SL. I lost count on the number of sims that banned the two of you for griefing them and the members.

So… I guess with your statement, you claim to always be right, and that those people here…on the blog…out there in SL… are all lying when it comes to you two…YOU TWO are the most selfish persons I have EVER met in SL.

Zun, you should take a crash course in ENGLISH, than you would UNDERSTAND what people were actually writing. Most of your statements were not based on anything but your own BLIND vision. And you keep repeating yourself over and over. Got short-term memory loss?

THIS is a REAL WORLD where you need to pay for REAL or you will be in big troubles FOR REAL. REAL LIFE isn’t a game. We can NOT teleport away from our REAL LIFE problems. Everybody has their own RL issues. But keep them out of the public SL.

It is simple:
*IF you nail me or my friends... Then I nail YOU on my blog.
*If you think you have to right to grief ppl, then we have the right to make your griefing public!

Signed…
Essie Springer


Note: I will close for comments now. If you wish to add something useful, you can make a nc and send it to me.

Essie Radford said...

"I wouldnt believe a word Pierce Ackman says, and backed up by Zun is double trouble. If pierce has a child, (god forbid, he shouldnt be allowed to procreate), then he should get off his stupid ass and go get a fucking job. If he cant do that, then maybe forfit the child to some proper parents who will care for it. As far as Zun goes, she should just shut up and mind her business, cause her 2 cents ALWAYS leads to heartach and destructive outcome. Nuff Said, dont wast another second on this topic"

~Cele~

xoul Munster said...

looks like this has been going on too long so i might as well have my turn at pierce aka piece of poop
sorry excuse for a person rl or otherwise altho i know you not in rl you are still a piece of crap in my eyes and many others now see the errors that you bring to thier time shared with people that they like you on the other hand should'nt be allowed to exist in sl nor do any of your alts and zun knows fully why you are not my favorate person as does most of the people that you and me both know

piece of poop you slime eatting crap stain on the sl univerce

and to zun, mother you know me and pierce well enuff i'd say to pass judment on us both in many aspects of sl life so i ask you to be rid of him for good this time i hope my chose of banning him sticks this time around for the greater good please be done with him

the rest of you can think of me what you will, i couldnt care less honestly but yea inclosing................. pierce you suck!